Q & A – Are There Other Turkey Red Images?

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Question:  I wonder if the early Turkey Red Tobacco Trading cards were just images of baseball players or were there other images?  Thanks for your help.

Answer:  The original Turkey Red set contained 76 Cabinet sized cards.  Card numbers 51 – 76 were of popular boxers of the time.  

  • Jem Driscoll #51
  • Abe Attell #52
  • Ad. Wolgast #53
  • Johnny Coulon #54
  • James Jeffries #55
  • Jack (Twin) Sullivan #56
  • Battling Nelson #57
  • Packey McFarland #58
  • Tommy Murphy #59
  • Owen Moran #60
  • Johnny Marto #61
  • Jimmie Gardner #62
  • Harry Lewis #63
  • Wm. Papke #64
  • Sam Langford #65
  • Knock-out Brown #66
  • Stanley Ketchel #67
  • Joe Jeannette #68
  • Leach Cross #69
  • Phil. McGovern #70
  • Battling Hurley #71
  • Honey Mellody #72
  • Al Kaufman #73
  • Willie Lewis #74
  • Philadelphia Jack O’Brien #75
  • Jack Johnson #76
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Originals Are Awesome

One of the best things that card manufacturers, specifically Topps & Upper Deck, have done in recent years is include original cards within their newer products.  I think its great that collectors have the chance of pulling a card from the late 1800’s and early 1900’s.  Pulling old cards, gives you the chance to learn about great players that you probably never heard of.  Take this card as an example.

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This is an original 1894 Mayo Cut Plug football card of Sam “Brinck” Thorne.  He was born in 1873 and died at the age of 56 in 1930.  Thorne was a halfback for Yale and was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1970.

The first time collectors could pull any type of vintage cards came during the 1990’s with products such as All-Sport Plus.  Products like All-Sport Plus didn’t last very long because the manufacturer hyped up their product making collectors think a base card from the 1970’s was really worth a lot.  You might have seen infomercials featuring Don West selling products like this.  Topps and Upper Deck have done a much better job allowing collectors to pull vintage cards.  

Just for fun.  Here is a classic Don West 🙂

Topps Fan Favorites Autographs

Topps Fan Favorites has some really good on card autographs.  They feature a lot of reprinted cards from the past of some great players.  Topps Fan Favorites does leave some room for scammers to have some fun.  A lot of the cards from any of the Topps Fan Favorites sets look similiar to the originals.  Topps may have changed the photo for their Fan Favorites product and they added a foil logo to the card, but if you plan to buy a Fan Favorites autographed card over the internet I would double check before you place the bid.  Before placing the bid, make sure you read the description carefully.  Its very possible that the card you are looking at could just be an original card that the seller got signed in person.  Look for the foil logo on the front of the card to indicate if it is a Topps Fan Favorites Autograph.  Check the product’s checklist to see if that player has an autograph in the set.  Finally, ask to see the back of the card.  Topps should have a hologram sticker on the back to indicate that it is authentic.  Below is an example of how similiar the original card and a Topps Fan Favorites card look.

Original 1990 Topps

2003 Topps Fan Favorites Autograph

 

Reprint of an Original Auto

The title says it all.  I can see how some collectors could be confused.  Is it a reprint or an original autograph?  I see some sellers doing this all the time.  Using keywords like this to make you think its an original autograph when it really isn’t.  They throw the word “reprint” in there so eBay won’t kick them off.  This leaves the potential buyer wondering whether the card is a reprint or the autograph.  Trust me, this is not an original autograph.