Treasure Detectives Tackle The Cobb-Edwards T206 Wagner

Thanks to shows like Pawn Stars, sports memorabilia has been getting its share of prime time coverage.  I usually make it a point to watch if I hear that a sports related item is going to be featured in one of their segments.  One of the newest shows that deals with collectibles began this month on CNBC Prime called Treasure Detectives.  In this show, experts take a look at specific items brought to them by individuals and they determine whether or not the item is real or fake based on a handul of forensic tests.  The hour long program usually swaps back and forth during the investigation process between the two items that are in question.  Its a refreshing show that doesn’t focus mainly on the item’s value, although dollar amounts do pop-up when they talk about what the item could potential be worth if it is determined to be authentic.

In the second episode, part of the show covers the Cobb-Edwards 1909-11 T206 Honus Wagner tobacco card.  Out of the 50 or 60 examples that exist today, this one has been in question for years.  According to Edwards, it was purchased from someone who obtained it at an estate sale in 1980.  Before that, there isn’t too much history on how the card surfaced or who owned it.  It was originally purchased supposedly for $1,800.00.  Over the years the card has gone through a handful of tests each coming up with vague yes-no determinations.  Eventually it landed itself in an ACA Grading holder which deemed the card to be authentic.  Why would they use ACA Grading to authenticate their card?  Most likely because they were the only company willing to touch the card and say it was real.  ACA probably wanted some attention from the hobby too.

For a majority of the show, Mr. Edwards wouldn’t let the examiners remove the card from it’s holder.  It wasn’t until the end where they brought in the individual from ACA Grading who encased the card and asked him to remove it so they could take a closer look under a microscope.  While taking a look at it with the microscope, you could clearly see the print pattern on the Cobb-Edwards card was not consistent with other T206 cards from the same set.  The font and spacing was off too.  One of the best ways to determine if a T206 card is counterfeit is to compare it to another common card from the set.  These cards were originally made as promos, and were expected to be thrown out.  They didn’t go out of their way to make some cards better looking than others.  Scanning the card in the CT scanner revealed that there was a potential bulge near the middle indicating that there might be more than one piece of paper present.  Given that the card was still in its holder at the time of the scan, they indicated that their measurements could be off.  I personally don’t buy that for a second.  CT scanners are designed to see through skin, muscle, tissue, and bone.  Not to mention tumors deep within the brain.  A little plastic holder shouldn’t be a problem.  Then again, I’m no doctor.

It was interesting to watch the show’s experts go about making a fake.  The end result was a spot on match to the Cobb-Edwards card.  The paper used on the Cobb-Edwards card is old which leads me to believe that its probably just an early fake.  Given all this information, it was no surprise that in the end they came to the conclusion the card isn’t the real thing.  Most collectors that were already aware of this card have had that in their heads for years.

As for the Canadian based ACA Grading.  What little reputation they had in the industry has been blown out to sea.

Treasure Detectives can be seen on CNBC Prime Tuesday nights @ 9:00 EST.  They also run re-runs all the time.

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Redemption Mailday – Tony Perez ’12 Playoff Prime Cuts Significant Signatures

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Happy New Year!!!  If you recall, a few weeks ago I broke and reviewed a box of 2012 Playoff Prime Cuts Baseball.  One of the “hits” I pulled was a redemption for a Tony Perez Significant Signatures autograph #’ed/25.  Just out of pure curiosity I redeemed it to see how long it would take to receive.  Yesterday in the mail it arrived.  It was redeemed on 12/8/12 and came on 12/31/12.  Not bad at all.  That has to be the fastest redemption ever fulfilled for me.  I don’t have a lot of luck when it comes to redemption cards.  Usually they take forever and sometimes you get sent a replacement.  This was a good experience.

Rockies Prime Cuts Contest Winner Announced

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Congrats to Brian C on being the lucky winner of the Troy Tulowitzki 2012 Playoff Prime Cuts Jersey #’ed/99.  Once Brian C sends me his mailing address, I will ship this card ASAP.  Thanks!

Rockies Prime Cuts Contest! – NOW CLOSED

This contest is for a Troy Tulowitzki 2012 Playoff Prime Cuts Jersey #’ed/99.  Good luck!!!

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Contest Details:

  • This contest will end Friday, December 14, 2012 @ 8:00 p.m. EST
  • To enter, please leave a comment in this post
  • You can enter once per day
  • The winner will be selected at random
  • Please provide a valid e-mail address when entering
  • The winner will receive an e-mail when the contest is over
  • The winner has one week to send me their contact information or the contest will be held again
  • Once the contest is over, I will need the winner’s mailing address so I can ship them this card for FREE!!!

2012 Playoff Prime Cuts Baseball Box Break & Review

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Upon opening my box and viewing other cards online, all I can say is that the design is quite simple.  A large portion of the autographs are on-card, but that opens up the opportunity for a lot of redemptions especially when it comes to Panini.  When it comes to high-end products I believe having logos and team names make all the difference too.

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Boxes are currently selling for around $150.00 – I think they’re drastically overpriced.

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Inside each box you’ll only find two cards.  No base, inserts, or funky parallels.  It gets straight to the “hits”.

I pulled the following:

Auto

  • Tony Perez Significant Signatures Auto Redemption #’ed/25 – I redeemed this just to see how long it takes to arrive.  Perez has other autographs within Prime Cuts that aren’t redemptions.  I guess he didn’t stick around for these.  It probably has to do with being an on-card signature.

Relic

  • Troy Tulowitzki Jersey #’ed/99

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Overall, I give 2012 Playoff Prime Cuts Baseball 3 Pipino Knights out of 5 (1=poor & 5=perfect).  Just like with ’12 Signature Series Baseball, its the price that gets to me the most.  Based on what I pulled, its just way too expensive.  My favorite part of this product are the relics of older players that you don’t see that much – Burleigh Grimes, Lefty Williams, Miller Huggins, and “Shoeless” Joe Jackson.

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Prime Patriots Contest Winner Announced

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Congrats to Kevin on being the lucky winner of the Jabar Gaffney 2012 Prime Signatures Silver Auto #’ed/49.  Once Kevin sends me his mailing address, I will ship this card ASAP.  Thanks!

Prime Patriots Contest! – NOW CLOSED

This contest will be for a Jabar Gaffney 2012 Prime Signatures Silver Auto #’ed/49.  Good luck!!!

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Contest Details:

  • This contest will end Friday, November 30, 2012 @ 8:00 p.m. EST
  • To enter, please leave a comment in this post
  • You can enter once per day
  • The winner will be selected at random
  • Please provide a valid e-mail address when entering
  • The winner will receive an e-mail when the contest is over
  • The winner has one week to send me their contact information or the contest will be held again
  • Once the contest is over, I will need the winner’s mailing address so I can ship them this card for FREE!!!